Friday, February 5, 2010

Atheists : Evolution is true but Muslim literature?

Evolution is also controlled by God . As I saw in Muslim literatture one of Gods name is Al BARI which means THE EVOLVER..





So isnt reasonable to conclude that God is the origniator of evolution?





I dont want answers bashing Islam religion or insulting the religions.





Short and good answers would be better





Also: If God didnt started evolution , then how did it began by itself?Atheists : Evolution is true but Muslim literature?
Oh oh!!!


Now you looking for trouble.Atheists : Evolution is true but Muslim literature?
Yes it is unreasonable. If god supposedly started it, where did god come from?
It is often seen that Darwinism and Religion clash; what is clashing is ignorance and not the diciplines.





Darwinism is in regards to the body.





Religions are in regards to the Spirit.





The two are separate and become one upon incarnation.





For one to claim the others role is to mix oil and water. This mixing is the Ego-self placing itself in charge as it usualy does.





Al Bari is no doubt a direct term in regards to how Muslims may view God, a constant evolution of spirit, always growing, always learning.
So because someone has given him the title ';the evolver'; that MUST mean he causes evolution...





Oh dear





It's....sheer stupidity to observe science, call a deity a name attributing said observations to the deity, and then say ';look, the deity has that name, he must be the cause of the scientific observations';.





For instance, I could start calling Leviathan ';the gravity maker';, or Eleventy ';the sun riser';. By the same logic as your argument I can now say ';Of course Leviathan is responsible for gravity, why else would he be called 'the gravity maker'? And of course Eleventy makes the sun rise every morning, otherwise he wouldn't have the name 'the sun riser'.';
I feel stupid after reading that.
Brownian motion.





Argument from necessity is a fool's game.
How?





Now that would be asking. Perhaps you should ask first how we would know one way or another?





The limited evidence we have strongly suggests that a lot of simple organic molecules, a lot of energy and a lot of time can quite easily result in self-replicating proteins... and from there, evolution takes over.
No, there is nothing reasonable about your claim. It's like asking if Batman is the father of all bats because someone put the word ';bat'; in his name when they imagined that fictitious person.





Also, your additional comment ';God is Eternal ! so something which is eternal doesnt need a start!'; is circular logic.





Read up on Occam's Razor. The Universe doesn't require any supernatural explanations for any aspect of its existence. Your assumption of an ';originator of evolution'; unnecessarily adds complexity and therefore is not the most parsimonious hypothesis.
am i getting this straight? you are using circular logic to state your opinion: ';Also: If God didnt started evolution , then how did it began by itself?';





take a course on writing and then ask us the question
Please read the books written by Harun Yahya on evolution and all will become clear.
evolution occours by natural means, why bring a ';god'; in, if you're going to concede natural means of existing?
perhaps, but there is not any evidence of it.





thus, whatever god or gods (if any) created evolution, he/she/it/they did not want us to know for sure it was them.





if one or more gods did not create evolution, how did life begin? We don't know yet. Science does not claim to have all the answers; there is no evidence that I am aware of offering a foundation for even an educated guess. It is okay to admit that we do not have all the answers, but lack of answers does not automatically make one religion or another's correct by default.
Wow....that's....tidy.


Perhaps a little...too..tidy?
If one can believe that God is everlasting and has always existed, then why can't Atheists say the same thing about the universe?
funny %26amp; all these years I have been saying the same thing from the ';Christian standpoint of this argument.';





I put god %26amp; creation together %26amp; got a fuller picture of what could be!





the whole time the Qua ran beat me to it %26amp; till now I never knew it did so!





Cool!
I dont believe in evolution however i believe that the big bang theory happened and god made it happen.





p.s this is only my opinion. Its is not neccessaryily every muslims belief.
If you knew what the theory of evolution was you would understand that there is no outside influence.
Abiogenesis is closer to chemistry than biology, but there are many scientific theories about the beginning of life, none of them require God's help.





Of course, it's possible that there is a supernatural being responsible, but it's just an unnecessary layer of complexity.
Well the vast majority of muslims are creationists so... what the hell are you talking about?





What do you mean if god didn't start evolution? It sounds like you don't understand what evolution actually IS. It has nothing to say about the origins of life.





http://www.talkorigins.org/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/


http://www.livescience.com/evolution/





Maybe you want to go read about abiogenesis.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis


http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob鈥?/a>
last i checked muslims believed adam was made from a handful of dirt that some invisible man sneezed on





and if they accepted evolution please explain harun yahya

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